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| − | [[The Police]]'s very first song was written by [[Stewart Copeland]]. [[Miles Copeland III | Miles Copeland]] gave this thumbs up that this should be the single on [[1977-02-05]]. Stewart borrowed 150 UK pounds from [[Paul Mulligan]] for the recording session at [[Pathway Studios]]. | + | [[The Police]]'s very first recorded song was written by [[Stewart Copeland]]. [[Miles Copeland III | Miles Copeland]] gave this thumbs up that this should be the single on [[1977-02-05]]. Stewart borrowed 150 UK pounds from [[Paul Mulligan]] for the recording session at [[Pathway Studios]]. |
| − | On [[1977-02-12]] [[The Police]] went to [[Pathway Studios]] and recorded from 01:00PM to 09:00PM. They mixed the songs on [[1977-02-13]] from 11:30AM to 2:00PM | + | |
| + | On [[1977-02-12]] [[The Police]] went to [[Pathway Studios]] and recorded from 01:00PM to 09:00PM. They started by recording [[Fall Out]] "live" with drums, bass and [[Henry Padovani]]'s rhythm guitar played at the same time. [[Stewart Copeland]] later overdubbed the rhythm guitar parts - but [[Henry Padovani]] plays the solo on [[Fall Out]], announced by [[Sting]]'s "Hen-ry!". | ||
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| + | They mixed the songs on [[1977-02-13]] from 11:30AM to 2:00PM. | ||
[[L'Historia Bandido]] from [[1981]] mentioned that Stewart had borrowed 150 UK pounds from [[Paul Mulligan]] - by the end of [[1977]] the sales of [[Fall Out]] had reached 10.000. | [[L'Historia Bandido]] from [[1981]] mentioned that Stewart had borrowed 150 UK pounds from [[Paul Mulligan]] - by the end of [[1977]] the sales of [[Fall Out]] had reached 10.000. | ||
| − | [[The Police: A Visual Documentary By Miles]] also mentions that [[Fall Out]] & [[Nothing Achieving]] were recorded for 150 UK pounds. Stewart had borrowed 800 from a friend ([[Paul Mulligan]]) and with the remaining money he had 2000 copies pressed at the RCA pressing plant near Newcastle | + | [[The Police: A Visual Documentary By Miles]] also mentions that [[Fall Out]] & [[Nothing Achieving]] were recorded for 150 UK pounds. Stewart had borrowed 800 from a friend ([[Paul Mulligan]]) and with the remaining money he had 2000 copies pressed at the RCA pressing plant near Newcastle and formed his [[Illegal Records]] label. |
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| + | [[Stewart Copeland]]'s diaries mention that he borrowed £ 500 from [[Paul Mulligan]] and paid £ 103 for recording and mixing. | ||
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| + | [[The Police]] picked up the first 50 records at the RCA pressing plant on [[1977-05-05]]. They already sold some at the next concerts - these had a press-out center hole and no cover yet. Before the single was officially released on [[1977-05-19]] more than 130 singles were already sold or given to Marc Zermati in Paris. | ||
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| + | The [[Reggatta de Blanc]] tour program mentions that 2000 singles had "immediately" sold. This seems to be right as on [[1977-06-02]] Stewart picked up 1100 more [[Fall Out]] singles in Slough - that might have been the Linguaphone pressing plant. By [[1977-06-22]] 4500 [[Fall Out]] singles had been sold already. | ||
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| + | [[Sting]] sold a [[Fall Out]] in a glossy sleeve and with a press-out center hole on [[1977-10-16]] at a concert in Maasbree, The Netherlands. This kind of rules out the idea that only the first run of 2000 came with the press-out center hole. The glossy cover back in October rules out the idea that this rare glossy cover was made for the initial run of 2000 copies. Those had sold out long ago. | ||
| − | + | There are two explanations for the fact that the glossy sleeve came with both press-out center hole and small center hole - either this sleeve version was used every now and then, depending on which printer was available. Or the glossy sleeve was used in the transition phase from the press-out center hole to the small center hole. | |
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| − | + | If you compare all the various label versions with their Matrix numbers it looks as if this might be the order of release: | |
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| + | * red label with crude Illegal logo - press-out center hole (from May [[1977]] until at least October [[1977]]) | ||
| + | * red label with crude Illegal logo - small center hole | ||
| + | * red label with neat Illegal logo - with "Made In England" at the bottom | ||
| + | * red label with neat Illegal logo - without "Made In England" at the bottom | ||
| + | * grey label with small Illegal logo | ||
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| + | * and then of course the [[1979]] re-releases, first with green / black cover, then blue / purple and later in [[1983]] orange / black cover | ||
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*[[Sting (person) | Sting]] (Bass Guitar / Vocals) | *[[Sting (person) | Sting]] (Bass Guitar / Vocals) | ||
*[[Henry Padovani]] (Guitar) | *[[Henry Padovani]] (Guitar) | ||
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| + | =Ads= | ||
| + | * Ripped & Torn (Summer [[1977]]): | ||
| + | [[Image:1977_06_Ripped_Tor_Fall_Out_ad_77.jpg|80px]] | ||
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| + | * SOUNDS (July 9, [[1977]]): | ||
| + | [[Image:1977_07_09_Sounds_Fall_Out_ad_77.jpg|80px]] | ||
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| + | * NME (July 16, [[1977]]): | ||
| + | [[Image:1977_07_16_NME_Fall_Out_ad_77.jpg|80px]] | ||
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| + | * Record Mirror (November 17, [[1979]]): | ||
| + | [[Image:1979_11_17_Sounds_Fall_Out_rerelease_ad.jpg|160px]] | ||
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| + | =Reviews= | ||
| + | * NME - May 28, [[1977]] review by Charles Shaar Murray: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_05_28_NME_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Record Mirror - May 28, [[1977]] review by David Brown: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_05_28_Record_Mirror_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Sounds - May 28, [[1977]] review by Tim Lott: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_05_28_Sounds_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Melody Maker - June 4, [[1977]] review by Caroline Coon: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_06_04_Melody_Maker_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * New Rose - July [[1977]] review: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_07_New_Rose_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Sounds - July 9, [[1977]] review by Pete Makowski: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_07_09_Sounds_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * ?- July 9, [[1977]] review: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_07_09_?_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Oor - July 13, [[1977]] review: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_07_13_Oor_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Confidential - Summer [[1977]] review: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_summer_Confidential_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
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| + | * Twist & Shout - August [[1977]] review: | ||
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| + | [[Image:1977_08_Twist_And_Shout_Fall_Out_review.jpg|200px]] | ||
=Quotations and trivia= | =Quotations and trivia= | ||
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=References= | =References= | ||
| − | '' | + | sources: [[Stewart Copeland]]'s diary, [[L'Historia Bandido]], [[The Police: A Visual Documentary By Miles]], [[Reggatta de Blanc]] tour program, [[Stewart Copeland]] (overdubs) |
[[Category:Songs (The Police)]][[Category:Songs & Compositions (Stewart Copeland)]] | [[Category:Songs (The Police)]][[Category:Songs & Compositions (Stewart Copeland)]] | ||
Latest revision as of 00:25, 14 February 2024
| "Fall Out" | |
|---|---|
 1977 cover | |
| Recorded by The Police | |
| Released: | 1977-05-19
1979-11-02 (re-release) |
| Recorded: | 1977-02-12 |
| Length: | 2:01 |
| Album(s): | Message In A Box |
| Label(s): | Illegal Records |
| Writer(s): | Stewart Copeland |
| Producer(s): | Stewart Copeland and Bazza |
| Studio(s): | Pathway Studios |
| Released as single? | YES |
"Fall Out" is a song written by Stewart Copeland and recorded by The Police on 1977-02-12.
Contents
About the song
The Police's very first recorded song was written by Stewart Copeland. Miles Copeland gave this thumbs up that this should be the single on 1977-02-05. Stewart borrowed 150 UK pounds from Paul Mulligan for the recording session at Pathway Studios.
On 1977-02-12 The Police went to Pathway Studios and recorded from 01:00PM to 09:00PM. They started by recording Fall Out "live" with drums, bass and Henry Padovani's rhythm guitar played at the same time. Stewart Copeland later overdubbed the rhythm guitar parts - but Henry Padovani plays the solo on Fall Out, announced by Sting's "Hen-ry!".
They mixed the songs on 1977-02-13 from 11:30AM to 2:00PM.
L'Historia Bandido from 1981 mentioned that Stewart had borrowed 150 UK pounds from Paul Mulligan - by the end of 1977 the sales of Fall Out had reached 10.000.
The Police: A Visual Documentary By Miles also mentions that Fall Out & Nothing Achieving were recorded for 150 UK pounds. Stewart had borrowed 800 from a friend (Paul Mulligan) and with the remaining money he had 2000 copies pressed at the RCA pressing plant near Newcastle and formed his Illegal Records label.
Stewart Copeland's diaries mention that he borrowed £ 500 from Paul Mulligan and paid £ 103 for recording and mixing.
The Police picked up the first 50 records at the RCA pressing plant on 1977-05-05. They already sold some at the next concerts - these had a press-out center hole and no cover yet. Before the single was officially released on 1977-05-19 more than 130 singles were already sold or given to Marc Zermati in Paris.
The Reggatta de Blanc tour program mentions that 2000 singles had "immediately" sold. This seems to be right as on 1977-06-02 Stewart picked up 1100 more Fall Out singles in Slough - that might have been the Linguaphone pressing plant. By 1977-06-22 4500 Fall Out singles had been sold already.
Sting sold a Fall Out in a glossy sleeve and with a press-out center hole on 1977-10-16 at a concert in Maasbree, The Netherlands. This kind of rules out the idea that only the first run of 2000 came with the press-out center hole. The glossy cover back in October rules out the idea that this rare glossy cover was made for the initial run of 2000 copies. Those had sold out long ago.
There are two explanations for the fact that the glossy sleeve came with both press-out center hole and small center hole - either this sleeve version was used every now and then, depending on which printer was available. Or the glossy sleeve was used in the transition phase from the press-out center hole to the small center hole.
If you compare all the various label versions with their Matrix numbers it looks as if this might be the order of release:
- red label with crude Illegal logo - press-out center hole (from May 1977 until at least October 1977)
- red label with crude Illegal logo - small center hole
- red label with neat Illegal logo - with "Made In England" at the bottom
- red label with neat Illegal logo - without "Made In England" at the bottom
- grey label with small Illegal logo
- and then of course the 1979 re-releases, first with green / black cover, then blue / purple and later in 1983 orange / black cover
Personnel
- Stewart Copeland (Drums / Guitar)
- Sting (Bass Guitar / Vocals)
- Henry Padovani (Guitar)
Release History
Albums
Fall Out appears on the following album releases:
| Cover art | Album title | Release date | Release country |
|---|---|---|---|
| 40px | Punk Collection | 1977-MM-DD | Italy |
| 40px | Illegal Greatest Hits | 1981-MM-DD | The Netherlands, Greece, ... |
| 40px | I.R.S. GREATEST HITS VOLS. 2 & 3 | 1981-MM-DD | USA |
|
WBCN Naked Disc | 1997-MM-DD | USA |
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Message In A Box | 1993-MM-DD | UK |
Singles
7" Singles
| Cover art | Catalog no. | A-side song/B-side song | Release date | Release country |
|---|---|---|---|---|
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IL 001 | "Fall Out"/"Nothing Achieving" | 1977-05-19 | UK |
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IL 001 | "Fall Out"/"Nothing Achieving" | 1979-11-02 | UK |
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IL 001 | "Fall Out"/"Nothing Achieving" | 1979-11-02 | UK |
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IL 001 | "Fall Out"/"Nothing Achieving" | 1983-MM-DD | UK |
Lyrics
Lyrics are property and copyright of their owners, and provided here for educational purposes only.
I never thought of leading I've got my own machine And I've paid my dues all along All set for breaking When I missed those other people 'Cause I knew that I was really alone Fall out Fall out with all the leaders and gangs Fall out Fall out with all the leaders and gangs I saw my education It was my indoctrination Just to be another parking machine All my sense was breaking When I missed those other people 'Cause I knew that I was not very clean Fall out Fall out with all the leaders and gangs Fall out Fall out with all the leaders and gangs Fall out
Ads
- Ripped & Torn (Summer 1977):
- SOUNDS (July 9, 1977):
- NME (July 16, 1977):
- Record Mirror (November 17, 1979):
Reviews
- NME - May 28, 1977 review by Charles Shaar Murray:
- Record Mirror - May 28, 1977 review by David Brown:
- Sounds - May 28, 1977 review by Tim Lott:
- Melody Maker - June 4, 1977 review by Caroline Coon:
- New Rose - July 1977 review:
- Sounds - July 9, 1977 review by Pete Makowski:
- ?- July 9, 1977 review:
- Oor - July 13, 1977 review:
- Confidential - Summer 1977 review:
- Twist & Shout - August 1977 review:
Quotations and trivia
- 1977-02-04 - The Police recorded their live set including Fall Out - Stewart cut a tape for his brother Miles
- 1977-02-05 - Miles phoned Stewart and praised Fall Out
- 1977-02-12 - Fall Out / Nothing Achieving was recorded at Pathway Studios
- 1977-02-13 - The Police mixed their recordings and paid 103 pounds
- 1977-02-20 - The Police re-mixed Fall Out
- 1977-05-05 - The Police picked up the very first 50 Fall Out singles at an RCA pressing plant (on their way from Birmingham to Newcastle)
- 1977-05-07 - The Police sold 31 Fall Out singles
- 1977-05-14 - Stewart gave 90 Fall Out singles to Marc Zermati in Paris
- 1977-05-19 - Fall Out was officially released
- 1977-06-01 - Sting and Stewart Copeland packed records
- 1977-06-02 - Stewart picked up 1100 more Fall Out singles in Slough
- 1977-06-08 - Stewart delivered records
- 1977-06-16 - Stewart packed 1100 more records
- 1977-06-22 - Stewart learnt that 4500 Fall Out singles had been sold
Alternative and cover versions
There are LOTS of different versions of this single.
The original from May 1977 had a dark red label and crude ILLEGAL writing on the label - some had a press-out centre hole, some didn't.
The later edition's label (from around October 1977) was less red - and had a nicer ILLEGAL logo on it. There are different versions with or without a "Made In England" notice.
There are also variations of the black and white cover concerning the kind of paper that was used and the kind of sleeve opening.
This 1977 cover in black and white was also used in combination with a third label variation - the 1979 reprint ILLEGAL label, but with a small logo...
In 1979 the single was re-released with a new cover. The most common one is the green and black version - blue and purple is less common. The rarest of them all is the orange and black version (which is probably the 1983 re-issue that was printed just for the fan club - they sold these for 1,50 UK pounds as mentioned in the Outlandos newsletter from December 1983).
And again there were variations about the labels. The first 1979 ILLEGAL label had a small logo. The other labels with a larger ILLEGAL logo sometimes had a two-stripe design, sometimes they had a three-stripe design.
See also
External links
This section needs more information.
References
sources: Stewart Copeland's diary, L'Historia Bandido, The Police: A Visual Documentary By Miles, Reggatta de Blanc tour program, Stewart Copeland (overdubs)
