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The Flag continued as originally planned, though it never did get a ride on the band jet.[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5246]
 
The Flag continued as originally planned, though it never did get a ride on the band jet.[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5246]
  
===The Legacy Fan Club DVD flag photo request===
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===The Legacy Fan Club Flag photo request===
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On [[2008-02-29]] [[ThePolice.com]], the Police's official Fan Club, announced that it would be sending to Legacy-level membership-holders a "premium gift" consisting of an exclusive Fan Club DVD and PDF tour book.
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As part of this announcement, [[ThePolice.com]] made the following call for photos:[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6245]
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We want both the tour book and DVD to include lots of your personal photos from the tour and
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are therefore encouraging your help. Please note, if you submit a photo we can not promise it
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will be used in the DVD or the tour book.
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Specifically, we are looking for:
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a. Any great photos you have taken of the band on stage.
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b. Any great photos you have taken at pre or post show fan get togethers, parties and/or tailgates.
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c. If you've been a bearer of Stewart's flag, we'd love photos of you with it to accompany some
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terrific video footage we have of Stewart chatting about the flag.
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The general photo request was met with mixed reactions, with issues ranging from questions of compensation, profits, and copyrights issues to the idea that the request was made of all Fan Club members but the distribution of materials would be restricted to Legacy-level members only.[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6245]
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The inclusion of the Flag in the request added another level of controversy, as the handling, language, and absence of reference to the [[Stewart Copeland Official Site]] in the request gave many members pause. Some members found the assumed association of the Flag with [[ThePolice.com]] Fan Club inappropriate, while some disapproved of the idea that a free project whose sole financial association was in fundraising for a melanoma charity might be used to generate profits for a corporate entity.
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In addition, the limited distribution of the DVD and PDF were again of issue: members of SC.net (a free website) who had not paid for a Legacy-level [[ThePolice.com]] membership would be denied access to exclusive materials which purported to trumpet the project that they themselves had worked so hard to support.[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6265][http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6245]
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On [[2008-03-03]], in response to forum members concerns, [[Stewart Copeland]] posted:[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6265&start=36]
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ok oK OK!
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I forgot all about the profit part; just thought you’d all like to be DVD stars. Well I nuked it;
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so you can all relax back into your lairs. C’mon Dirty, you enjoyed the little rush of outrage didn’t
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you? I love a good tirade myself whenever possible but I haven’t suffered any tangible injustice lately.
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On your behalf I took an imperious tone and informed my connection over there that they could NOT profit
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from your WORK. And you’ll be glad to know of the anguish that resulted. They were smote.
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Although the issue at hand had been the request for fan's Flag photos specifically, Stewart's diction and [[ThePolice.com]]'s removal of the Flag entirely from the announcement led some to question if only fan's Flag photos or all Flag-related content had been "nuked" from the Fan Club DVD and PDF.[http://www.thepolice.com/news/news.php?uid=5663] Although an appeal was made that the Flag as a whole not be stricken completely from the record, the [[Fan Club DVD]] released in November 2008 contains no references or images of the Flag.[http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6286]
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The Flag does, however, appear in the official [[The Police|Police]] release of the [[2007-2008 Reunion Tour]], [[Certifiable]], as well as in the contained feature "[[Better Than Therapy]]."
  
 
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The Flag of Copelandia
The Flag when it was first created in May 2007.
The Flag when it was first created in May 2007. Photo courtesy of DM-Kellie.

The Flag (also known as Stewart's Flag, The Flag of Copelandia, The Little Flag That Could, The Krypton Menace, etc.) is a small green flag with the Stewart Copeland horse logo painted on the front. Originally built by a fan to make it easy to find strangers in a crowd, the Flag became a symbol of support for Stewart Copeland by the forum members of his official website. From 2007-05-27 to 2008-08-07, these fans carried the Flag around the globe to 91 concerts and one television appearance of the 2007-2008 Reunion Tour of The Police, collecting fans' signatures on the back along the way.

Thanks to the support and interaction with the Flag of Stewart Copeland himself, the Flag's appearance in the audience at Police concerts became a kind of tradition of the Reunion tour, culminating with the Flag's appearance onstage at the final Police concert at Madison Square Garden.

After approximately a year of traveling, the Flag now resides in Stewart Copeland's home.

History

Background

The Flag was built in May 2007 by Moeskido and DirtyMartini in order to make it easier for DirtyMartini and other forum members of the Stewart Copeland Official Site to find each other in Vancouver, Canada for the opening nights of the 2007-2008 Reunion Tour of The Police.

Made of kelly green cotton broadcloth and white acrylic paint and built to last for only three days, the Flag was constructed to be easily recognizable by strangers in crowded locations with no eye toward durability, quality, or aesthetics. The finished flag folded too large to fit inside DirtyMartini's purse, so three grommets were added to the top edge so that the Flag could be hung from a large metal ring on the outside.

The flag served its purpose well, first spotted and recognized by samburusunset at the Vancouver International Airport customs booths. It was carried to various gatherings and meet-up locations, as well as to the 2008-05-27 and 2008-05-28 Police concerts.

During the flag's construction phase, DirtyMartini had joked to Moeskido about the flag appearing at multiple concerts, while in Vancouver fans GinaSuperCat, Conroy, samburusunset, and DirtyMartini had toyed with the idea of signing the back of the Flag to send to Stewart as a memento of the beginning of the tour. Soon those two ideas would converge independently in the mind of another fan. (DM-Kellie)

DirtyMartini had posted a link to a photograph of the Flag in her signature line at SC.net so that members traveling to Vancouver could recognize it.[1][2] Forum members Hannaha and Divemistress of the Dark saw this photo and requested instructions on how they might make their own flags. While discussing how the original flag -- having served its purpose -- might be mailed to others' respective concerts, Hannaha proposed the following idea, which encapsulates well the spirit and goals of the project that was born:[3]

I think we should make a concerted effort to get this flag to circumnavigate the world with Copeland fans.
Signing the back is a great idea too. See how many North American shows we can get it to and then send it
on over to us in europe for the next leg of the tour. Finally, after South America, Japan, Australia et al
it will return, battered and battle-worn, to Ms Martini's eager mitts!

Not only will it make hooking up with sc.netters easier it will also let STEWART know we're there cheering
him on, wherever in the world he may be!

"Let Your Team Copeland Flag Fly"

On 2007-06-03 a request for volunteers to carry and bear the Flag was posted: Let your Team Copeland Flag fly!!! (Flag-Bearers wanted.)

The plan was for each volunteer Flag-Bearer to carry the Flag to his/her assigned concert(s). In addition to holding the Flag during the show, volunteers were asked to make themselves available either before or after the concert so that other Stewart Copeland Official Site forum members could sign the back of the Flag. The Flag-Bearer was then responsible for mailing or physically carrying the Flag to its next goal location. The hope was to show the Flag and collect signatures throughout the tour, then present the Flag to Stewart as "the nastiest, rattiest, lovingest, most battle-scarred keepsake that Fiona has ever banned from entering the Copeland household."[4]

Response to the idea was positive and enthusiastic. Within the first 24 hours of the original call for volunteers, 13 fans had volunteered for Flag Duty, offering to carry the flag to 22 concerts in 6 different countries. Due to geographic and timing limitations as well as limited resources, the Flag was unable to attend every concert on the tour, but the Flag's schedule was adjusted often to accommodate as many locations and volunteers as possible.

Bonnaroo (2007-06-16) and Houston (2007-06-29)

The Flag's first public appearance after acquiring its new purpose was on 2007-06-16 at the Bonnaroo Music And Arts Festival in Manchester, TN. Fan cpriddims, a volunteer for the festival, was able to use his volunteer status to carry the Flag to a secure location in the backstage area and wait for The Police caravan to arrive. After an hour of waiting, Stewart Copeland's van drove through. From the back seat, Stewart spotted the Flag for the very first time and, smiling, gave the Flag two thumbs up.[5]

A few days later in Houston, Stewart spotted the Flag during a concert for the first time, and -- to the surprise and delight of many -- gave it appreciative acknowledgment in the form of thumbs ups and stick points both during the performance and the curtain call.[6] This 2007-06-29 Houston concert would mark the beginning of a tradition that would run until the end of the tour of Stewart Copeland acknowledging the Flag from onstage during a Police concert.

The Flag of Copelandia

Stewart reacted enthusiastically, smiling, gesturing, and pointing exaggeratedly at the Flag and its Flag-Bearer at various times throughout each show. Soon it became clear that Stewart was not just happening to see the Flag in the audience but was actively searching for it. In order to make this job easier, particularly on those nights when the Flag was not located close to the stage, "Flag-Spotting" threads describing the Flag's whereabouts in the audience were posted on the SC.net forum. Judging from Stewart's actions, it seems likely that he was receiving these messages in the first half of the tour but had stopped reading them during the last legs after the 2008 spring hiatus. (DM-Kellie)

Stewart's actions and reactions to the Flag generated a great deal of enthusiasm and buzz for the project, and gradually word of the Flag spread to the Police fan club forum and elsewhere. As Stewart played along with "our little flag game" as he once called it, fans' excitement and desire to get involved increased, and members of SC.net looked forward to hearing reports of Stewart's interactions with his flag.

Fan enthusiasm for the project became evident in a variety of ways, including avatars, jokes, "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of Copelandia" t-shirts, and songs. In addition to showing support for Stewart, the Flag brought many fans together who might not have met otherwise and gave fans from all over the world a project that they could support together, even if they had ever met the Flag in person. (cite (and cite elsewhere))

At random intervals throughout the Flag's journey, Stewart posted and spoke positively about his Flag. By the end of the 2007-2008 Reunion Tour, his acknowledgment of the Flag and his appreciation for his fans' efforts and support were evident.

The Finale at Madison Square Garden (2008-08-07)

For months SC.net forum members had been speculating and brainstorming on how the Flag should be delivered to Stewart at the end of the tour. Finally DirtyMartini got word that she should coordinate with Jeff Seitz as Stewart was "keen" to hang the Flag on the gong at the final Police concert at Madison Square Garden. Due to timing and logistical problems, hanging the Flag on the gong proved unfeasible, but Police crew members were able to construct a special rig at the last minute on which the Flag could hang next to Stewart's drumkit.

So that the final Flag Duty of the tour could be performed by more than a single person, small paper "flags" were distributed to Stewart Copeland fans throughout the arena: on one side was an approximate "copy" of the Stewart Copeland Flag (the white horse logo on a green background), while on the other side were the words "THANK YOU," also in white on a green background. Thus, when Stewart reached the stage, he was greeted not with a single flag but hundreds located throughout the arena, concentrated mostly in the areas where Stewart had given away free tickets to many of his forum members. The original Flag was shared among forum members located in the pit through the first half of the show, then handed off to Brad Sands during "Invisible Sun" to be carried backstage.[7]

At the beginning of the first encore just before "Purple Haze," Stewart appeared onstage with the Flag in hand, which he presented to the audience, passed to a crew member to hang on the rig created for the purpose, and then saluted.(links) The Flag hung on the stage next to Stewart for the remainder of the concert.[8]

The Flag appeared a number of times on the live online Best Buy broadcast, most notably in close-up during the altered So Lonely lyric "Welcome to the Stewart Copeland show."(link) Fans watching the broadcast all over the world were ecstatic to see their Flag on stage.[9][10][11][12] [13] Fans' "THANK YOU" messages appeared on camera as well.

Fitting with the meme that he had established, at the end of the concert Stewart pointed one-by-one to the many fans located in the pit holding paper "flags" and "THANK YOU" signs. The next day he posted on SC.net, saying "Well, I’m way too hung over for any sensible message to all of you nutters except to say thank YOU for your happy faces in the mosh. Glad you all enjoyed it as much as I did. We’ll talk soon…"[14]

Aftermath

After traveling to five continents, appearing at 91 concerts and one television taping, the Flag was finally in the possession of Stewart Copeland. Following the 2008-08-07 concert, he carried it home with him to be displayed in the studio of his home.[15][16]

A couple of weeks later, the Flag appeared by chance in the background of photographs of The Police published both online and in print by Rolling Stone magazine.[17][18][19][20][21][22]

At last official word, the Flag was in the process of being framed.[23][24]

Fast Flag Facts

  • Concerts attended: 91
  • Television appearances attended: 1
  • Continents visited: 5
  • Countries visited: 21
  • Cities visited: 66
  • Miles traveled: unknown
  • Flag-Bearers (official): 68
  • Flag-Bearers (unofficial, including assistants and rock stars): 75, plus unknown number in audience at 2008-08-07 finale
  • Flag Mules (total, including Flag-Bearers): x
  • First signature collected: Divemistress of the Dark (2007-06-16)
  • Last signature collected: BABA (2008-08-07)
  • # of signatures collected: unknown
  • Total cost of project: unknown
  • Prime Directive: "The First Law of the Flag is Flag Survival."

(DM-Kellie)

Timeline

Notable events in the Flag's history

2007

  • On 2007-05-13 the Flag is born.
  • On 2007-06-16 the Flag is first seen by Stewart Copeland backstage at Bonnaroo. He gives the Flag two thumbs up.[25]
  • On 2007-06-29 the Flag receives its first on-stage acknowledgment from Stewart.
  • On 2007-07-16 the first Flag Point photo is captured.
  • On 2007-07-18 Stewart mentions the Flag publicly for the first time.[26]
  • On 2007-08-30 the Flag enters official Police history, mentioned in an official news item and making a brief appearance in the band's European Tour Electronic Press Kit.[27][28]
  • On 2007-09-20 the Flag is immortalized in song, "The Flag of Copelandia Anthem" by BongoBoy. Stewart posts to express his approval, joking that "Andy and Sting are very exited (sic) about your song. Just the sort of new material that we've been looking for! We should have it worked into the set by Munich..." [29][30]
  • On 2007-11-21 "The Little Flag That Could" photo gallery -- a collection of photos of the Flag, of Stewart's fans with the Flag, and of Stewart's reactions to the Flag all over the world -- is announced. [31]
  • On 2007-11-28 the Flag meets Stewart Copeland for the first time. This unscheduled meeting is met with mixed reactions by forum members, and Stewart posts to express both his apologies and his appreciation.[32][33][34]
  • On 2007-11-30 JMRL drives two-and-a-half hours across Argentina to convince FedEx contractor Fast Track to release the Flag, and by doing so, makes it possible for the Flag to attend three concerts in South America.[35][36][37]
  • In December 2007 Stewart mentions the Flag in his holiday greeting on the home page of his official site.[38]

2008

  • On 2008-01-19 Stewart first references the Flag in public from the stage, shouting, "Hold that flag up right there! Right there!" [39] (bootleg)
  • On 2008-03-26 Stewart describes his Flag during a Q&A session.[40][41]
  • On 2008-05-14 an alternative, "freak out flailing version" of the Flag anthem, "The Flag of Copelandia 2008," is posted by BongoBoy. [42][43]
  • On 2008-05-20 the Flag inspires an eighth grade French lesson in the form of "Le Drapeau Vert." The semi-fictional story will also launch a classroom board game. [44][45]
  • On 2008-07-28 Stewart Copeland and Jeff Seitz have a small panic as, due to a miscommunication of information, they fear that the Flag may have been confiscated by security.
  • On 2008-07-31 Jeff Seitz signs the Flag.
  • On 2008-08-07, just before the first encore of the final Police concert at Madison Square Garden, Stewart Copeland hangs the Flag on stage next to his drumkit on a special rig created for the purpose. [46][47][48]
  • On 2008-08-21 the Flag appears in the background of photos of the Police's reunion tour finale published online by Rolling Stone magazine. [49][50][51][52][53] A few days later the Flag appears in the print edition of Rolling Stone, issue #1060, publication date 2008-09-04.[54]
  • On 2008-11-08 journalist and filmmaker Gert-Peter Bruch posts online a video segment of an interview with Stewart Copeland conducted in Paris in which he talks about the Flag.[55][56]
  • In November 2008, The Police release Certifiable. The Flag, Stewart's reactions to it, and Flag-Bearers JMRL and stingingintherain appear a number of times during the concert footage. In addition, the Flag appears in the audience at the end of the feature "Better Than Therapy."

Flag Schedule

The Flag appeared at the following Police performances:

Date Venue Location Flag-Bearer
2007-05-27 GM Place Vancouver, BC, Canada DirtyMartini
2007-05-28 GM Place Vancouver, BC, Canada DirtyMartini
2007-06-16 Bonnaroo Music And Arts Festival Manchester, TN, United States Divemistress of the Dark
2007-06-23 Dodger Stadium Los Angeles, CA, United States bella
2007-06-29 Toyota Center Houston, TX, United States Spec A!
2007-06-30 New Orleans Arena New Orleans, LA, United States Divemistress of the Dark
2007-07-02 Scottrade Center St. Louis, MO, United States Divemistress of the Dark*
2007-07-10 Dolphins Stadium Miami, FL, United States cpriddims
2007-07-16 Quicken Loans Arena Cleveland, OH, United States DirtyMartini and nancyrose
2007-07-19 Citizens Bank Park Philadelphia, PA, United States conroy
2007-07-20 Hersheypark Stadium Hershey, PA, United States samburusunset
2007-07-22 Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, Canada nancyrose
2007-07-23 Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, Canada Copelandous D'Amour
2007-07-28 Fenway Park Boston, MA, United States Skip
2007-07-29 Fenway Park Boston, MA, United States sockii
2007-08-01 Madison Square Garden New York, NY, United States Donna
2007-08-03 Madison Square Garden New York, NY, United States nancyrose*
2007-08-05 Giants Stadium East Rutherford, NJ, United States DirtyMartini
2007-08-29 Globe Arena Stockholm, Sweden copelandos_damour
2007-09-05 National Indoor Arena Birmingham, England, UK Larissa
2007-09-08 Twickenham Stadium London, England, UK dafttart
2007-09-09 Twickenham Stadium London, England, UK smudge
2007-09-11 AOL Arena Hamburg, Germany Dietmar
2007-09-13 Arena Amsterdam, Netherlands GinaSuperCat
2007-09-14 Arena Amsterdam, Netherlands GinaSuperCat
2007-09-16 Stade de La Praille Geneva, Switzerland Giovanni
2007-09-19 Stadthalle Vienna, Austria Dietmar
2007-09-22 Olympiastadion Munich, Germany phaty
2007-09-27 Olympic Stadium Barcelona, Spain Dietmar
2007-09-29 Stade de France Paris, France olivier
2007-09-30 Stade de France Paris, France Dietmar*
2007-10-02 Stadio Delle Alpi Turin, Italy Giovanni
2007-10-06 Croke Park Dublin, Ireland smudge (with assist from invisible)
2007-10-08 Sportpaleis Antwerp, Belgium Dietmar
2007-10-19 Millenium Stadium Cardiff, Wales, UK takeshi and plutonic
2007-10-20 Wembley Arena London, England, UK Hannaha
2007-10-31 Madison Square Garden New York, NY, United States Moeskido
2007-11-02 Madison Square Garden New York, NY, United States Susan
2007-11-03 Boardwalk Hall Atlantic City, NJ, United States Bob from NJ
2007-11-05 Verizon Center Washington, DC, United States conroy
2007-11-08 Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, Canada BongoBoy
2007-11-09 Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, Canada kimmy
2007-11-11 TD BankNorth Garden Boston, MA Lynne
2007-11-17 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA, United States JSchoel483
2007-11-18 Philips Arena Atlanta, GA, United States IndyGirl
2007-11-27 Arena Monterrey Monterrey, Mexico georgygirl
2007-12-01 Estadio River Plate Buenos Aires, Argentina JMRL
2007-12-02 Estadio River Plate Buenos Aires, Argentina stingingintherain
2007-12-05 Estadio National Santiago, Chile Jose
2008-01-17 Westpac Stadium Wellington, New Zealand empty and plutonic (with assist from DrummerDaveF)
2008-01-19 Western Springs Auckland, New Zealand empty and plutonic
2008-01-26 Cricket Grounds Melbourne, Australia visions
2008-02-10 Kyocera Osaka Dome Osaka, Japan Midori
2008-02-13 Tokyo Dome Tokyo, Japan Uccellina
2008-02-14 Tokyo Dome Tokyo, Japan Midori
2008-02-16 Blaisdell Center Honolulu, HI, United States OutlandoGirl
2008-02-17 Blaisdell Center Honolulu, HI, United States D-A-O*
2008-05-01 Scotiabank Place Ottawa, ON, Canada Grace and sameoldbuttercup
2008-05-03 HSBC Arena Buffalo, NY, United States luddite lady
2008-05-04 Nationwide Arena Columbus, OH, United States AGroovie1
2008-05-10 Allstate Arena Rosemont, IL, United States IndyGirl
2008-05-16 Amway Center Orlando, FL, United States E (with assist from Lilrock and Jen)
2008-05-17 Cruzan Amphitheatre West Palm Beach, FL, United States mrs.adams
2008-05-23 MGM Grand Las Vegas, NV, United States TheEqualizer and irishrose1969
2008-05-26 Coors Amphitheatre Chula Vista, CA, United States musinggrai
2008-05-27 Hollywood Bowl Los Angeles, CA, United States empty (with assist from demolition gal)*
2008-05-28 Hollywood Bowl Los Angeles, CA, United States Laz
2008-06-05 SAP Arena Mannheim, Germany phaty
2008-06-07 TW Festival Werchter, Belgium rhoeckel
2008-06-08 LTU Arena Dusseldorf, Germany Maud138
2008-06-17 MEN Arena Manchester, England, UK Eugenio
2008-06-18 MEN Arena Manchester, England, UK Eugenio (with assist from stevel and gary1)
2008-06-20 Stormont Belfast, Northern Ireland takeshi, Eugenio, Giovanni, DirtyMartini
2008-06-22 Heineken Jammin' Festival Venice, Italy Giovanni and Eugenio
2008-06-29 Hard Rock Calling, Hyde Park London, England, UK smax
2008-07-05 Rock in Rio Festival Madrid, Spain Mary
2008-07-14 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View, CA, United States OutlandoGirl
2008-07-16 Sleep Train Pavilion Concord, CA, United States charliearnold
2008-07-17 Sleep Train Amphitheatre Wheatland, CA, United States samburusunset
2008-07-19 USANA Amphitheatre Salt Lake City, UT, United States nancyrose, GinaSuperCat, and TheEqualizer
2008-07-21 Red Rocks Amphitheatre Denver, CO, United States policerule
2008-07-22 Red Rocks Amphitheatre Denver, CO, United States shyvixen
2008-07-25 Marcus Amphitheater Milwaukee, WI, United States Lynne
2008-07-28 Post Gazette Pavilion Burgettstown, PA, United States mairinphg
2008-07-29 Wachovia Center Philadelphia, PA, United States Schmaffy
2008-07-31 Tweeter Center Mannsfield, MA, United States perryl
2008-08-01 Saratoga Performing Arts Center Saratoga, NY, United States MadGrad
2008-08-03 PNC Bank Arts Center Holmsdel, NJ, United States MadGrad and OutlandoGirl*
2008-08-04 Nikon At Jones Beach Theater Wantagh, NY, United States Mimimph*
2008-08-05 Nikon At Jones Beach Theater Wantagh, NY, United States Tamadude
2008-08-06 Apollo Theater New York, NY, United States Dietmar*
2008-08-07 Madison Square Garden New York, NY, United States Stewart Copeland and SC.net


*Last-Minute Flag-Bearer Substitutions

Date Location Original Flag-Bearer Replacement Flag-Bearer Reason
2007-07-02 St. Louis, MO, United States mardee Divemistress of the Dark Seating location
2007-08-03 New York, NY, United States DirtyMartini nancyrose Seating location
2007-09-30 Paris, France ilbolchini Dietmar Physical injury
2008-02-17 Honolulu, HI, United States caligula D-A-O Family emergency
2008-05-27 Los Angeles, CA, United States demolition gal empty Seating location
2008-08-03 Holmdel, NJ, United States Bob from NJ MadGrad and OutlandoGirl Seating location
2008-08-06 New York, NY, United States DirtyMartini Dietmar Seating location

Controversies and kerfluffles

The Flag-touching incident

Because of the high chance that certain Flag-Bearers in Europe might have the opportunity to meet Stewart Copeland while in possession of the Flag, Flag-Bearers starting with the first European leg of the 2007-2008 Reunion Tour were asked as part of their instructions that they avoid showing the Flag to him or allowing him to have his photo taken with it. This request was made in an effort to keep the Flag as safe and manageable as possible and avoid giving the false impression that the Flag might be used to get backstage or to meet the band. (DM-Kellie)

On 2007-11-28 Stewart Copeland did meet the Flag and have his photo taken with it. Reactions to the event were mixed, as many members at the Stewart Copeland Official Site forum were pleased by Stewart's evident joy but upset by the "rule-breaking" and the circumstances of the meeting.[57][58] " On 2007-12-02 Stewart posted a response to the kerfuffle titled "Touch the Flag!," clearing the air and expressing his appreciation for the project as a boost to morale:[59]

Sorry folks but I never got the memo about not touching the flag. I haven’t been able to read all 200 posts
on this topic so I'm not sure why it's a problem, but if DM can survive being mistaken for DMOTD (where was
that anyway, Atlanta?) then she can survive this.

The flag thing is plenty cool with or without sacred rules. And right there at that moment in Monterey the
little blast of flag love was a much appreciated boost to morale. I’m a sucker for ritual just like anyone
else, and I’m sorry if I screwed this up, but I just couldn’t resist having a closer look at my green touring
companion. This has been a long tour for both of us. Would you all freak out completely if I offered the flag
a ride on the band jet? 

The Flag continued as originally planned, though it never did get a ride on the band jet.[60]

The Legacy Fan Club Flag photo request

On 2008-02-29 ThePolice.com, the Police's official Fan Club, announced that it would be sending to Legacy-level membership-holders a "premium gift" consisting of an exclusive Fan Club DVD and PDF tour book.

As part of this announcement, ThePolice.com made the following call for photos:[61]

We want both the tour book and DVD to include lots of your personal photos from the tour and
are therefore encouraging your help. Please note, if you submit a photo we can not promise it
will be used in the DVD or the tour book.

Specifically, we are looking for:

a. Any great photos you have taken of the band on stage.

b. Any great photos you have taken at pre or post show fan get togethers, parties and/or tailgates.

c. If you've been a bearer of Stewart's flag, we'd love photos of you with it to accompany some
terrific video footage we have of Stewart chatting about the flag.

The general photo request was met with mixed reactions, with issues ranging from questions of compensation, profits, and copyrights issues to the idea that the request was made of all Fan Club members but the distribution of materials would be restricted to Legacy-level members only.[62]

The inclusion of the Flag in the request added another level of controversy, as the handling, language, and absence of reference to the Stewart Copeland Official Site in the request gave many members pause. Some members found the assumed association of the Flag with ThePolice.com Fan Club inappropriate, while some disapproved of the idea that a free project whose sole financial association was in fundraising for a melanoma charity might be used to generate profits for a corporate entity.

In addition, the limited distribution of the DVD and PDF were again of issue: members of SC.net (a free website) who had not paid for a Legacy-level ThePolice.com membership would be denied access to exclusive materials which purported to trumpet the project that they themselves had worked so hard to support.[63][64]

On 2008-03-03, in response to forum members concerns, Stewart Copeland posted:[65]

ok oK OK!

I forgot all about the profit part; just thought you’d all like to be DVD stars. Well I nuked it;
so you can all relax back into your lairs. C’mon Dirty, you enjoyed the little rush of outrage didn’t
you? I love a good tirade myself whenever possible but I haven’t suffered any tangible injustice lately.
 On your behalf I took an imperious tone and informed my connection over there that they could NOT profit
from your WORK. And you’ll be glad to know of the anguish that resulted. They were smote. 

Although the issue at hand had been the request for fan's Flag photos specifically, Stewart's diction and ThePolice.com's removal of the Flag entirely from the announcement led some to question if only fan's Flag photos or all Flag-related content had been "nuked" from the Fan Club DVD and PDF.[66] Although an appeal was made that the Flag as a whole not be stricken completely from the record, the Fan Club DVD released in November 2008 contains no references or images of the Flag.[67]

The Flag does, however, appear in the official Police release of the 2007-2008 Reunion Tour, Certifiable, as well as in the contained feature "Better Than Therapy."

Leroy Coolbreeze Fund for Melanoma

On 2007-09-28 the idea was proposed of "attaching" a charity to the forum's Flag project.[68] After much consideration, dialogue, and research, the Leroy Coolbreeze Fund for Melanoma to benefit the Melanoma International Foundation was created, organized and named in honor of Stewart's brother Ian Copeland who passed away from melanoma on 2006-05-23.[69][70].

Although originally conceived in association with the Flag, members of SC.net quickly took it upon themselves to raise money for the Fund through various means, encouraging fundraising in such large-scale capacities as melanoma walks and charity bike rides, as well as through small methods, such as bumping the relevant fundraising thread at the holidays, in association with the passing of loved ones or celebrities, and in appreciation of Stewart Copeland for his generous donation of concert tickets to forum members for the final Police concert.[71][72]

As of 2008-09-05, approximately $5500 had been raised for melanoma research through the Leroy Coolbreeze Fund.[73][74][75]

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